April 7th 2009 "jim" wrote:
"The situation at CLC is an abomination. The pastors influence over the wife apparently did not include an encouragement to keep this quiet. She let the genie out of the bottle to the extent that the details have made it to my inbox.
Gentlemen, when all is said and done in this case, I’m going to make you famous.
I promise."
I may be reading this wrong, and Jim, please chime in if I am, this sounds like a threat. Are the gentlemen that you refer to anyone in leadership in SG? "I'm going to make you famous"? Really Jim?! Do you think you are in an espionage war or something? Do you think you are Jack Bauer with some damning evidence in your "inbox" that you can use to leverage a response from CJ? Will you resort to breaking into CJ's office, use a knife under his eyeball to get him to "talk"?
Are. You. Serious?
You take many liberties with your perceived knowledge my friend. How's your investigation going? Is the reformed "big dog" ready to march into CJ's office with your large manila envelope of offensive documentation and demand that CJ be "relieved of command"? I've been waiting to hear news of this "bombshell" but have only heard good reports and good things about SGM.
A brief aside. I remember the first time I saw a picture of you and noted that you have a remarkable resemblance to the Hughes Family. Then I read your comment about wanting the comments to stay away from Bob Hughes saying, "Not everything is meant for the Internet." This stopped me in my tracks. It was a notable change in your M.O. of "Everything damming SGM belongs on the Internet." Are you related to the Hughes or do you know Bob personally? This sudden switch in your personality was very intriguing. Could you elaborate possibly?
Thursday, May 21, 2009
Annonymous Commenting.
Thanks to some of our annonymous commentors. We were unaware that some of the anti SGM websites were run by self admittedly divorced older women. In hindsight, the things that we perused on those various sites makes much more sense in that light. Hell certainly casts an evious eye to the fury incited by the scorn found in those words. There's an old adage that speaks of this isn't there??
Unlike these sites, we would like to encourage annonymous posting here. We promise we will not track your IP address and figure out where you are. ::rolls eyes:: Contrastly, we don't measure our success by the amount of comments we receive or where we think you are commenting from. Your identity is safe here and your comments are welcome. Be warned however, commenters from anti SGM sites will inevitably drift over here from time to time and badger what you say if you use any sort of Biblical truth or logic. Please don't get dragged down by their vain arguments. It's ok. Take a deep breath and remember these are scorned women. "It's better to live in a desert land than with a quarellsome and fretful woman." Pro 21:19
Aint that the truth.
Unlike these sites, we would like to encourage annonymous posting here. We promise we will not track your IP address and figure out where you are. ::rolls eyes:: Contrastly, we don't measure our success by the amount of comments we receive or where we think you are commenting from. Your identity is safe here and your comments are welcome. Be warned however, commenters from anti SGM sites will inevitably drift over here from time to time and badger what you say if you use any sort of Biblical truth or logic. Please don't get dragged down by their vain arguments. It's ok. Take a deep breath and remember these are scorned women. "It's better to live in a desert land than with a quarellsome and fretful woman." Pro 21:19
Aint that the truth.
Tuesday, May 12, 2009
Why you should leave your church right now.
Why You should Leave Your Church Right Now.
By the Staff Editor
I remember attending a christian event while in high school as an observer. I met lots of interesting people most of whom were home schooled. I remember one young kid in particular because upon introducing himself, he informed me that he and his family didn't believe in organized corporate meetings of the church. Without hesitation I simply asked for a Biblical reference that made him and his family believe that God was cool with this. Sadly he couldn't find one and ran off to meet another person and share his conviction that organized church is wrong.
I truly felt bad for the kid, he had been raised by a set of parents who probably got burned by some church somewhere and now those parents are depriving their kids from one of the primary means of sanctification God uses in our lives: The local church.
If a poll were to be taken across America today how many people would raise their hands to this question: "Have you ever had a bad experience at your church?" I don't want to create statistics here but I would have to guess the percentage would be quite high. Heck, I'd even raise my hand. Oddly, this surprises people.
Matthew 7:14 "For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few." (Emphasis mine)
The early church had mad problems and issues, serious issues. But today people experience their pastor not followintheir g advice on what the direction of the church should be and then act hurt like the pastor called them an idiot and threatened to stone them publicly. A brief aside: Direction of the church is not your call. It's God's call. And it's the responsibility of the Senior Pastor to hear and obey what God instructs. If you disagree with your church's direction (unless the direction is clearly not biblical) don't try to change it. The church is like a ship, and the Senior pastor is at the helm, God is the wind and the rest of us work with the helmsman to run the ship smoothly. If navigating by popular opinion is your idea of a good church, please go find zen atop Nepal. You'll do far less damage there. (And will probably be happier)
Thinking about leaving your church? If you are at that point in your thinking, then you should just find somewhere else to go. Does your church not "meet your needs?" Find another religion then. If your reason for leaving a church is based on it's inability to meet your specific needs then I would seriously rethink your salvation. What a slap in God's face! "God, I know you are all knowing and all powerful and that you have what is best for me, however this local church you placed me in isn't going in the direction I feel is best for me, I'm bailing."
If you think the church is here only to serve you, boy do you have some serious theological wires crossed. I would humbly suggest a alternative. Try this: The next time you feel like your local church is not meeting your spiritual needs try serving others. Try making a meal for a new mom, try asking your pastor for suggestions in which ministry you should serve in. Try attending your small group meeting ready to participate consistently. Seriously, try it.
By the Staff Editor
I remember attending a christian event while in high school as an observer. I met lots of interesting people most of whom were home schooled. I remember one young kid in particular because upon introducing himself, he informed me that he and his family didn't believe in organized corporate meetings of the church. Without hesitation I simply asked for a Biblical reference that made him and his family believe that God was cool with this. Sadly he couldn't find one and ran off to meet another person and share his conviction that organized church is wrong.
I truly felt bad for the kid, he had been raised by a set of parents who probably got burned by some church somewhere and now those parents are depriving their kids from one of the primary means of sanctification God uses in our lives: The local church.
If a poll were to be taken across America today how many people would raise their hands to this question: "Have you ever had a bad experience at your church?" I don't want to create statistics here but I would have to guess the percentage would be quite high. Heck, I'd even raise my hand. Oddly, this surprises people.
Matthew 7:14 "For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few." (Emphasis mine)
The early church had mad problems and issues, serious issues. But today people experience their pastor not followintheir g advice on what the direction of the church should be and then act hurt like the pastor called them an idiot and threatened to stone them publicly. A brief aside: Direction of the church is not your call. It's God's call. And it's the responsibility of the Senior Pastor to hear and obey what God instructs. If you disagree with your church's direction (unless the direction is clearly not biblical) don't try to change it. The church is like a ship, and the Senior pastor is at the helm, God is the wind and the rest of us work with the helmsman to run the ship smoothly. If navigating by popular opinion is your idea of a good church, please go find zen atop Nepal. You'll do far less damage there. (And will probably be happier)
Thinking about leaving your church? If you are at that point in your thinking, then you should just find somewhere else to go. Does your church not "meet your needs?" Find another religion then. If your reason for leaving a church is based on it's inability to meet your specific needs then I would seriously rethink your salvation. What a slap in God's face! "God, I know you are all knowing and all powerful and that you have what is best for me, however this local church you placed me in isn't going in the direction I feel is best for me, I'm bailing."
If you think the church is here only to serve you, boy do you have some serious theological wires crossed. I would humbly suggest a alternative. Try this: The next time you feel like your local church is not meeting your spiritual needs try serving others. Try making a meal for a new mom, try asking your pastor for suggestions in which ministry you should serve in. Try attending your small group meeting ready to participate consistently. Seriously, try it.
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