Well finally our comment was accepted by sgmrefuge.com. And boy what a gaggle of clustered chaos it stirred. The responses were somewhere below the level of school yard return-fire tactics that included a carefully crafted response that sounded suspiciously like, "oh yeah, well you're just stupid."
I guess we here at this site feel like we're the hostage negotiator trying to open a clear line of communication while at the same time establishing a rapport with the other party. The clear line of communication was to speak using the same forum they use. And to establish rapport it was determined for us to use demeaning, slander, gossip and just being plain rude tactics to get the other party to see us as "one of them." For an odd reason, this apparently didn't work out to hot.
After reviewing our metaphors, it was suggested that this situation is more of a stranger (us) trying to talk a person (sgmrefuge.com, sgmsurvivors.com) out of jumping off a 100 story building. Sure you want them to not jump but honestly, if they feel that strongly about it, they do it. And after they do, it really comes down to this: They get to reap the rewards of that decision, not us. And while I would surely hate to see a fellow human being jump to their death, It's really not my call. Jump. Don't jump. But whatever you do, choose one so we can all go home for dinner.
In any event, the response we got was, to say the least, not very welcoming. I think the worst part of the whole thing, was that we were accused of being misinformed. This made me laugh out loud for the better part of the afternoon. Especially since they haven't a single clue who writes for this blog. I assure you, dear reader, we are many things but misinformed is rarely one of them.
We also ran into being mocked for our acronym. ASGMS. Even with a decent command of the English language it does take quite the dirty mind to take that as something to snicker about. This informs you of whom were are trying to communicate. Believe me, it IS as frustrating as it sounds. "HAHA, your acronym makes me giggle so I'm gonna discount everything you say, thumb my nose at you and treat you like a child."
Their condescension dripped off their responses just like a drink would drip off your face if it were thrown at it. Which incidentally may have happened if our comments were made in person.
See, I was thinking that going into a blog that offers---more like, "asserts with abandon" an opposing view to a church group would appreciate hearing a counter argument fashioned in the same manner as their original argument. It puts both people on the same playing field. This however, did not serve them and their response was to lash out with very strongly worded comments to my comment about a comment that turned into a post. Did you catch all that? You find it all ridiculous? ::gasp::
How could you even suggest such a thing? This is therapy for those church battered people. You cant take that away from them. Who cares if said "therapy" is code for public sin. (And if this word "sin" makes you uncomfortable and brings back nightmares of why you left SGM, this is natural. The rest of us actually deal with it as adults, but I can understand your trepidation at the sound.)
The second highlight of my day was when my editor finished reading all the refuse posted on sgmrefuse.com (pun intended) in response to our comment and she looked at me and remarked, "Don't these people have jobs?!"
These must be the people that perpetually populate Starbucks during working hours.
I would imagine it's tiresome to keep up whining ALL the time about SGM. Caffeine would have to be a must. After reading the archives of old posts and comments on both sgmrefuge.com and sgmsurvivors.com it's become way past the beating of a deceased horse. It come to the point that the dead horse has been beaten until it's body deteriorated and past that has been beaten into and through thick concrete and bedrock foundations. Tectonic plates have shifted and volcanoes have erupted amidst earthquakes and tremors. Beware all horses: should you pass away, your body will become the collective puching bag for a group of overly bitter people how will use strongly worded comments to prove they are always right.
One of these sites actually lists in it's rules to refrain from posting the text of scripture in a comment trying to dissuade them from their practices. Apparently quite a few people already used scripture to alert them to the error of their ways. The reasoning was, yeah yeah, we all can look up verses and
Friday, February 27, 2009
Thursday, February 26, 2009
Warning People
If we here at the Anti SGM Satire Inc HQ had a nickel for every time we read a variation of the excuse, "the hurtful things we say about Sovereign Grace is all justified because we are warning people about them," we'd take that money and buy the sgmsurvivors.com/onlinestore Jeffersons Bible. We'd also chip in a penknife for free.
This thought occured me: by pointing out every little deficiency in SGM and blaming them for everything from the bad dream you had last night to Global Warming, you are assigning SGM as God. Now I'm quite sure God isn't too happy to hear about this transition, but clearly sgmsurvivors think that He's been asleep at the wheel. To assign blame for a circumstance to SGM, or to assign blame for a heart issue one is dealing with to CJ Mahaney or Steve Shank tells us a few things. (a) your view of God is a micron shorter than a strand of hair. and (b) these guys are easier to blame than to blame the One who created the very mind you use to defame His bride.
So. Really?! You can say whatever you want about someone just as long as it's under the category of "warning them." Let's give it a shot:
Don't visit sgmsurvivors.com or sgmrefuge.com because if you do, a part of your soul with flee your body with a shriek of an engine thats been shot with a sniper round. Reading any posting or subsequent ad nauseum comments about how SGM is like Nazi Germany and CJ is like Hitler not only lowers your IQ but it damages you spiritually. Exposing yourself to the sheer idocy of vain arguments heavily laced with bitter rants bent on causing only hurt and dissention doesn't exactly put you in the right place to worship God. I think these site owners have quit their jobs so they can sit at home and giggle with each other online when they find new things to blame SGM for or find out how some pastor slipped up.
That was fun.
So if we believe that it's really God, not SGM, who determines the course of every circumstance, I would challenge sgmsurvivor.com and sgmrefuge.com to turn their comments heavenward. All the hurt,dissention, hate, anger, slander, gossip and bitterness needs to be directed to God. NOT SGM. See how He takes it.
No?
Why not?
Oh sure, it's easier to hide behind your keyboard and take potshots at pastors who wont ever fight back.
Oh by the way, We've talked with several pastors about these sites; they all really couldn't care less about what is written about them online. They spend their efforts with the people who actually go to the church they pastor, not with embittered people from the outside who are trying to change the church. (I found this hilarious. Here I was thinking we had an issue to uphold and the SGM pastors we talked with didn't think twice about it)
Back to taking potshots at the men that God ordained and placed in leadership. If you have an issue with how a leader is leading (or not leading) you take that up with God, not incite a rebellion. You think the direction of a church should go a different way, you tell God that to His face. You think your pastor is the wrong man for the job, in all your infinite wisdom, I say you should go tell God about it. But spend all your free time festering old wounds and backstabbing and undercutting a group of churches, specfic pastors and leaders?!?!
Are. You. Serious?
There is no precedent.
There is no Biblical basis.
There is no way God is OK with this.
There is no way any good will come of it.
I don't suppose you all could just get over it and go away? Why keep up the fighting? You all want change for the church that you don't want to be a part of? Why don't you start your own church and try being a pastor for all of five minutes. While your there you can grow up.
This thought occured me: by pointing out every little deficiency in SGM and blaming them for everything from the bad dream you had last night to Global Warming, you are assigning SGM as God. Now I'm quite sure God isn't too happy to hear about this transition, but clearly sgmsurvivors think that He's been asleep at the wheel. To assign blame for a circumstance to SGM, or to assign blame for a heart issue one is dealing with to CJ Mahaney or Steve Shank tells us a few things. (a) your view of God is a micron shorter than a strand of hair. and (b) these guys are easier to blame than to blame the One who created the very mind you use to defame His bride.
So. Really?! You can say whatever you want about someone just as long as it's under the category of "warning them." Let's give it a shot:
Don't visit sgmsurvivors.com or sgmrefuge.com because if you do, a part of your soul with flee your body with a shriek of an engine thats been shot with a sniper round. Reading any posting or subsequent ad nauseum comments about how SGM is like Nazi Germany and CJ is like Hitler not only lowers your IQ but it damages you spiritually. Exposing yourself to the sheer idocy of vain arguments heavily laced with bitter rants bent on causing only hurt and dissention doesn't exactly put you in the right place to worship God. I think these site owners have quit their jobs so they can sit at home and giggle with each other online when they find new things to blame SGM for or find out how some pastor slipped up.
That was fun.
So if we believe that it's really God, not SGM, who determines the course of every circumstance, I would challenge sgmsurvivor.com and sgmrefuge.com to turn their comments heavenward. All the hurt,dissention, hate, anger, slander, gossip and bitterness needs to be directed to God. NOT SGM. See how He takes it.
No?
Why not?
Oh sure, it's easier to hide behind your keyboard and take potshots at pastors who wont ever fight back.
Oh by the way, We've talked with several pastors about these sites; they all really couldn't care less about what is written about them online. They spend their efforts with the people who actually go to the church they pastor, not with embittered people from the outside who are trying to change the church. (I found this hilarious. Here I was thinking we had an issue to uphold and the SGM pastors we talked with didn't think twice about it)
Back to taking potshots at the men that God ordained and placed in leadership. If you have an issue with how a leader is leading (or not leading) you take that up with God, not incite a rebellion. You think the direction of a church should go a different way, you tell God that to His face. You think your pastor is the wrong man for the job, in all your infinite wisdom, I say you should go tell God about it. But spend all your free time festering old wounds and backstabbing and undercutting a group of churches, specfic pastors and leaders?!?!
Are. You. Serious?
There is no precedent.
There is no Biblical basis.
There is no way God is OK with this.
There is no way any good will come of it.
I don't suppose you all could just get over it and go away? Why keep up the fighting? You all want change for the church that you don't want to be a part of? Why don't you start your own church and try being a pastor for all of five minutes. While your there you can grow up.
Tuesday, February 24, 2009
Censored?
Over here at the Anti Sovereign Grace Ministries Satire corporate headquarters we held a meeting earlier today about why our two sister sites:
sgmsurvivors.com
spiritualtyranny.com
are not allowing us to make comments or promote our new blog.
There's only one reason why they would restrict an organization such as ours from commenting.
We must have hit a raw nerve. We heard that the leaders of our two sister sites sent out emails telling their members not to visit our blog or read any of it's contents. *snicker*
Also we went back into the archives of sgmsurvivors.com and found a comment posted by a (now) former member who felt convicted about the gossip concerning SGM he had posted in the past. The interesting part was the ridicule he experienced afterward about his public apology. He was quickly eaten alive with strongly worded comments and posts. We're sure God will deal more harshly with him later. It's a good thing sgmsurvivors beat the crap out of him with their words. That'll teach him never to repent of his sin again.
The highlight of my day is spent reading Eric Cartman vomiting new big words he learned on dictionary.com's "word of the day" in an effort to distract his followers from realizing he's a bitter person without a cause. He doesn't even get to be a rebel without a cause. (a bibbel? Bitter + Rebel?) John Immel, you are so utterly bitter it's frightening. I hope you are nowhere near our town, for your bitterness is predicted by NASA as the next causation of a black hole. Not even light can escape your bitter tirade and jumble of letters and symbols meant to prove your point. Way to spread darkness and dissention and crap all over the world man. That being said, we are done with your blog. Spiritualtyranny.com is dead to us. You have nothing intelligent to say, you have nothing positive to post about; your bitterness is like crunching rocks between one's teeth. Your slander is so positively one sided and verifiably wrong on every level it's just a given that you'll lie and assume the worst. And your horse beaten slogan of "SGM is responsible for every bad thing in my life" bores us to tears. It's only a matter of time before you find another church or group to bitch about. Hope that goes well for ya.
Having a blog is fun. You can say whatever you want!
In the office here we have a growing list of people that stop by our sister sites and are so completely blown away by the venomous bile that leaps off the computer screen and infects you with the black plague in a matter of miliseconds, that they are compelled to go attend a SGM church to see what the fuss is. We now know that 50 people, single/married/elderly have begun regularly attending a SGM church because of Spiritualtyranny.com and sgmsurvivors.com.
Believe us, the irony and humor are not lost.
sgmsurvivors.com
spiritualtyranny.com
are not allowing us to make comments or promote our new blog.
There's only one reason why they would restrict an organization such as ours from commenting.
We must have hit a raw nerve. We heard that the leaders of our two sister sites sent out emails telling their members not to visit our blog or read any of it's contents. *snicker*
Also we went back into the archives of sgmsurvivors.com and found a comment posted by a (now) former member who felt convicted about the gossip concerning SGM he had posted in the past. The interesting part was the ridicule he experienced afterward about his public apology. He was quickly eaten alive with strongly worded comments and posts. We're sure God will deal more harshly with him later. It's a good thing sgmsurvivors beat the crap out of him with their words. That'll teach him never to repent of his sin again.
The highlight of my day is spent reading Eric Cartman vomiting new big words he learned on dictionary.com's "word of the day" in an effort to distract his followers from realizing he's a bitter person without a cause. He doesn't even get to be a rebel without a cause. (a bibbel? Bitter + Rebel?) John Immel, you are so utterly bitter it's frightening. I hope you are nowhere near our town, for your bitterness is predicted by NASA as the next causation of a black hole. Not even light can escape your bitter tirade and jumble of letters and symbols meant to prove your point. Way to spread darkness and dissention and crap all over the world man. That being said, we are done with your blog. Spiritualtyranny.com is dead to us. You have nothing intelligent to say, you have nothing positive to post about; your bitterness is like crunching rocks between one's teeth. Your slander is so positively one sided and verifiably wrong on every level it's just a given that you'll lie and assume the worst. And your horse beaten slogan of "SGM is responsible for every bad thing in my life" bores us to tears. It's only a matter of time before you find another church or group to bitch about. Hope that goes well for ya.
Having a blog is fun. You can say whatever you want!
In the office here we have a growing list of people that stop by our sister sites and are so completely blown away by the venomous bile that leaps off the computer screen and infects you with the black plague in a matter of miliseconds, that they are compelled to go attend a SGM church to see what the fuss is. We now know that 50 people, single/married/elderly have begun regularly attending a SGM church because of Spiritualtyranny.com and sgmsurvivors.com.
Believe us, the irony and humor are not lost.
Monday, February 23, 2009
Anti SGM Blitching getting attention?
Excited by the apparent newfound (at at least apparent growing) interest in their brilliantly contructed whinings and slaggings, (slander has been thrown around a lot, I'm thinking slander + Blogging) the two sites SGMsurvivors and spiritualtyranny are now posting their numbers of hits on their sites. At least one is, i'm not sure if the other is posting them, at least both are congradulating themselves on their growing popularity. I envision a schedule of respected members taking turns holding down the "refresh" button for hours at a time.
In other news, this blog, while only in existence for a mere 48 hours has had 1.9 million hits in the last 7 minutes alone. Our voice is being heard! Our influence is growing.
With a quick perusal, as well as deep research into the archives of both sites, it's apparent that several SGM pastors must have at some point, hunted, shot and killed the firstborn child of each member that post on these sites. This is based on the vileness of accusations and anger found in between the lines of every post and comment. (heck, screw "inbetween the lines, it's everywhere) I'm predicting a coup d'etat of a SGM church to happen in the near future. Every pastor will be asked for his resignation. While precedent for holding a church hostage isn't necessarily found in real scripture, we're still waiting for the official sgmsurvivors.com Bible to be added to the online store (No joke, they actually have an online store) complete with revisions, additions, and removal of any verses condemning their actions. This is OK because the original Bible apparently didn't account for the fact that they have been sinned against. Or at the very least it didn't account for them being offended. It too bad God didn't account for this sudden turn of events. Imagine: People sinning. Freaking. Unfathomable.
Also, should anyone care to know, both sites are keeping a public record of offenses. This is especially comforting because it's obvious the people on these sites are quick to forgive offense and are prone to overlook offenses. This archiving of sin will make sure that no one could possibly forget what has happened to each and everyone of them.
Instead of keeping a running tally of offences we have decided to keep a running tally of Biblical practices, nice things said, and general positive things posted about SGM.
SGMsurvivors.com - Still wading through the sheer volume of blitching.
Spiritualtyranny.com - Hell called, the snowball melted.
*frowns*
I'm sure it's in there somewhere.
We here at Anti SGM Satire Inc, are encouraged by the aforementioned web blogs' example in this: Now that we have our own blog in which we can post whatever we want, our voice is now important. Who gives a crap what we post here or if it's even true. We blog, therefore we matter. And what we have to say has importance.
(As this is being written, the editor is sticking her head out the window and yelling "Validate Me!")
I'm sure every SGM pastor has those sites bookmarked and check them everyday fearful that their name may creep up. Lord knows they have nothing else better to do, such as deal with future SGMsurvivors.com members in their offices. "You want to talk about MY sin!? What about YOUR sin." Brilliant comeback. It's not like your Pastor is responsible to God for your spiritual care or anything. Or was that accountable to how YOU think you should be lead? I forget what the Bible says. Seeing as how "your heart is good and, Pure above all things, you can trust it" i'm thinking you should shake your fist at your pastor now and go your own way. Who needs a Church to help you grow anyways? Can you imagine if thats how God choose to help you become more like Him?! *Snort* A sinful, imperfect Pastor used by God?! See this is why Paul was so effective, after years and years of being a perfect Godly man, God saw it fit to use him to preach the gospel. See, we earn God favor. And we earn the right for Him to use us. Not just anyone can be used by God, you gotta work at it.
Just hit the 2 and a half million hits mark. Wow. We have been Validated. We are a contender. We matter. And what we post here, is important.
In other news, this blog, while only in existence for a mere 48 hours has had 1.9 million hits in the last 7 minutes alone. Our voice is being heard! Our influence is growing.
With a quick perusal, as well as deep research into the archives of both sites, it's apparent that several SGM pastors must have at some point, hunted, shot and killed the firstborn child of each member that post on these sites. This is based on the vileness of accusations and anger found in between the lines of every post and comment. (heck, screw "inbetween the lines, it's everywhere) I'm predicting a coup d'etat of a SGM church to happen in the near future. Every pastor will be asked for his resignation. While precedent for holding a church hostage isn't necessarily found in real scripture, we're still waiting for the official sgmsurvivors.com Bible to be added to the online store (No joke, they actually have an online store) complete with revisions, additions, and removal of any verses condemning their actions. This is OK because the original Bible apparently didn't account for the fact that they have been sinned against. Or at the very least it didn't account for them being offended. It too bad God didn't account for this sudden turn of events. Imagine: People sinning. Freaking. Unfathomable.
Also, should anyone care to know, both sites are keeping a public record of offenses. This is especially comforting because it's obvious the people on these sites are quick to forgive offense and are prone to overlook offenses. This archiving of sin will make sure that no one could possibly forget what has happened to each and everyone of them.
Instead of keeping a running tally of offences we have decided to keep a running tally of Biblical practices, nice things said, and general positive things posted about SGM.
SGMsurvivors.com - Still wading through the sheer volume of blitching.
Spiritualtyranny.com - Hell called, the snowball melted.
*frowns*
I'm sure it's in there somewhere.
We here at Anti SGM Satire Inc, are encouraged by the aforementioned web blogs' example in this: Now that we have our own blog in which we can post whatever we want, our voice is now important. Who gives a crap what we post here or if it's even true. We blog, therefore we matter. And what we have to say has importance.
(As this is being written, the editor is sticking her head out the window and yelling "Validate Me!")
I'm sure every SGM pastor has those sites bookmarked and check them everyday fearful that their name may creep up. Lord knows they have nothing else better to do, such as deal with future SGMsurvivors.com members in their offices. "You want to talk about MY sin!? What about YOUR sin." Brilliant comeback. It's not like your Pastor is responsible to God for your spiritual care or anything. Or was that accountable to how YOU think you should be lead? I forget what the Bible says. Seeing as how "your heart is good and, Pure above all things, you can trust it" i'm thinking you should shake your fist at your pastor now and go your own way. Who needs a Church to help you grow anyways? Can you imagine if thats how God choose to help you become more like Him?! *Snort* A sinful, imperfect Pastor used by God?! See this is why Paul was so effective, after years and years of being a perfect Godly man, God saw it fit to use him to preach the gospel. See, we earn God favor. And we earn the right for Him to use us. Not just anyone can be used by God, you gotta work at it.
Just hit the 2 and a half million hits mark. Wow. We have been Validated. We are a contender. We matter. And what we post here, is important.
Sunday, February 22, 2009
I Survived an Anti-SGM drive by blogging.
I would suppose that when any one person or group of people stand for something, there will inevitably be another person or group of people that universally disagree with the first group. You have pro-lifers vs the anti-lifers, the authors of the Federalist Papers and their opponents with the brilliantly titled rebuttal, "The Anti-Federalist Papers." Republicans and Democrats. Blah blah. Although on the much smaller scale than age old politics, there is a small group of people who cannot stand Sovereign Grace Ministries. (sgmsurvivor.com, spiritualtyranny.com to name two) After reading the past years worth of blitching (blogging + well, you get the picture) I was won over with their winsome words. I was immediately convicted of my disobediance of Matthew 18:15 which reads
"If your brother sins against you, go and write a scathing blog about his sin, just between the two of you. If he listens to you, you have won your brother over. But if he will not listen, take one or two others along in your mudslinging blog and continue to record every offense, so that 'every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.'
Imagine my shock and dismay at reading this in my Bible. Why had my SGM pastor not preached about this verse? How dare he censor the living word of God?! You mean this whole time that I've been uncomfortable with God's primary means of sanctifying me to be more Holy, I could've been undercutting and gossipping and slandering online to vent my frustrations?!?! Holy smokes. This is HUGE. We're gonna blow this lid off this cover up. I did some more bible searching...
1st Timothoy 5:13 Besides, they get into the habit of being idle and going about from house to house. And not only do they become idlers, but also gossips and busybodies, saying things they ought not to. Unless of course it's on an online blog. Then by all means instruct the people that it is their God-Give right to be gossips and busibodies.
Whoa.
Leviticus 19:16 " Do not go about spreading slander among your people. " 'Do not do anything that endangers your neighbor's life. I am the LORD."
--- Now see at first I had a hard time with this one, because it almost looks like God actually and specifically spoke about what SGMsurvivors.com and spiritualtyranny.com authors and commentors post, and it says that what they are doing is sinful and wrong. But obviously God doesn't have all the details. What about for people that are actually hurt by an offense. This makes gossip and slander ok right? Of course it does. I mean what if I've been really offended, I've earned the right to blitch. God understands. Leviticus only applies for people the spread slander for no apparent reason.
Psalm 41:6 Whenever one comes to see me, he speaks falsely, while his heart gathers slander; then he goes out and spreads it abroad.
--- Again, I think this verse had me stumped for a short while. It almost sounds like the author of this passage is trying to convey that spreading slander abroad is a bad thing. Actually i'm quite sure that this author of the passage wasn't aware of all the facts. What if what I have to say is true? That doesn't make it slander right? Of course. When it's true, it's our duty to make sure we defame, slander, and gossip about anyone who offends us, sins against us, or just makes us upset.
So while it may seem like the Bible prohibits the actions of the aforementioned blogs, it really encourages it. It's also a good thing that the Bible doesn't say anything about God using your Pastor to grow and sanctify you. Otherwise we'd have a huge problem. I mean what if God decided to actually use your pastor to rout out sin in your life in a manner that make you a bit uncomfortable. Imagine the horror. Removal of sin isn't such a huge deal. Why should we open up and respond with humility and consider our pastors better than ourselves when that might feel uncomfortable. And worse, what if my pastor isn't a perfect human being? He might, SIN against me. I am so glad that God wants us to blitch and whine on online blogs about how SGM is just an evil corporation who's end means are to brainwash us into being: more like Christ, more in love with our Savior, more diligent in our spiritual disciplines, more knowledgeable in the scriptures.
It's also freeing to know that drive-by blitching about specific pastors even though I may not have all the information or perhaps only heard it second or third hand, is completely ok and encouraged by God. God wants us to do these things because sometimes, things slip out of His control, and He needs us to warn others about how bad and evil SGM is, as a whole. Keep up the good work guys, there's a special jewel for your heveanly crown thats achieved only by getting a certain number of people to leave a SGM church. Strain forward to that goal! Don't let people like Peacemaker get in your way. Don't let anyone deter you from this singular goal: Inform the world of how SGM is not of God, and record every single mess up and post it publically. You have the word of God on your side. Fight on.
"If your brother sins against you, go and write a scathing blog about his sin, just between the two of you. If he listens to you, you have won your brother over. But if he will not listen, take one or two others along in your mudslinging blog and continue to record every offense, so that 'every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.'
Imagine my shock and dismay at reading this in my Bible. Why had my SGM pastor not preached about this verse? How dare he censor the living word of God?! You mean this whole time that I've been uncomfortable with God's primary means of sanctifying me to be more Holy, I could've been undercutting and gossipping and slandering online to vent my frustrations?!?! Holy smokes. This is HUGE. We're gonna blow this lid off this cover up. I did some more bible searching...
1st Timothoy 5:13 Besides, they get into the habit of being idle and going about from house to house. And not only do they become idlers, but also gossips and busybodies, saying things they ought not to. Unless of course it's on an online blog. Then by all means instruct the people that it is their God-Give right to be gossips and busibodies.
Whoa.
Leviticus 19:16 " Do not go about spreading slander among your people. " 'Do not do anything that endangers your neighbor's life. I am the LORD."
--- Now see at first I had a hard time with this one, because it almost looks like God actually and specifically spoke about what SGMsurvivors.com and spiritualtyranny.com authors and commentors post, and it says that what they are doing is sinful and wrong. But obviously God doesn't have all the details. What about for people that are actually hurt by an offense. This makes gossip and slander ok right? Of course it does. I mean what if I've been really offended, I've earned the right to blitch. God understands. Leviticus only applies for people the spread slander for no apparent reason.
Psalm 41:6 Whenever one comes to see me, he speaks falsely, while his heart gathers slander; then he goes out and spreads it abroad.
--- Again, I think this verse had me stumped for a short while. It almost sounds like the author of this passage is trying to convey that spreading slander abroad is a bad thing. Actually i'm quite sure that this author of the passage wasn't aware of all the facts. What if what I have to say is true? That doesn't make it slander right? Of course. When it's true, it's our duty to make sure we defame, slander, and gossip about anyone who offends us, sins against us, or just makes us upset.
So while it may seem like the Bible prohibits the actions of the aforementioned blogs, it really encourages it. It's also a good thing that the Bible doesn't say anything about God using your Pastor to grow and sanctify you. Otherwise we'd have a huge problem. I mean what if God decided to actually use your pastor to rout out sin in your life in a manner that make you a bit uncomfortable. Imagine the horror. Removal of sin isn't such a huge deal. Why should we open up and respond with humility and consider our pastors better than ourselves when that might feel uncomfortable. And worse, what if my pastor isn't a perfect human being? He might, SIN against me. I am so glad that God wants us to blitch and whine on online blogs about how SGM is just an evil corporation who's end means are to brainwash us into being: more like Christ, more in love with our Savior, more diligent in our spiritual disciplines, more knowledgeable in the scriptures.
It's also freeing to know that drive-by blitching about specific pastors even though I may not have all the information or perhaps only heard it second or third hand, is completely ok and encouraged by God. God wants us to do these things because sometimes, things slip out of His control, and He needs us to warn others about how bad and evil SGM is, as a whole. Keep up the good work guys, there's a special jewel for your heveanly crown thats achieved only by getting a certain number of people to leave a SGM church. Strain forward to that goal! Don't let people like Peacemaker get in your way. Don't let anyone deter you from this singular goal: Inform the world of how SGM is not of God, and record every single mess up and post it publically. You have the word of God on your side. Fight on.
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